Comments on: Apple’s Trash http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/ Tomos Hillman's mind-dump. Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:16:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: SilentBob http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-60 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:30:17 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-60 AFAIK it has to be changed on a user by user basis, but it's not recommended to use common/shared temp folders due to weak permissions, which is why I don't change it. Also, if you try and use the C:\Windows\Temp folder in Vista, I think UAC will prompt you whenever you try and access it (in many cases the only things that use that folder are badly written installers that typically require elevated privileges anyway). AFAIK it has to be changed on a user by user basis, but it’s not recommended to use common/shared temp folders due to weak permissions, which is why I don’t change it. Also, if you try and use the C:\Windows\Temp folder in Vista, I think UAC will prompt you whenever you try and access it (in many cases the only things that use that folder are badly written installers that typically require elevated privileges anyway).

]]> by: yamahito http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-59 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:56:30 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-59 Do you have to change the environment variables on a user by user basis? Do you have to change the environment variables on a user by user basis?

]]> by: Minotaur http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-55 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:28:04 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-55 From what I've seen none of the OSes out there at the moment seem to dynamically resize the trash as other things need the space. In an ideal world, we'd have very little free space on drives and stuff would be stored in the trash pretty much forever unless the space was needed by something else, at which time it'd be cleared out oldest stuff first until the required free disk space was met. SB, you can force the user's temp directory to be the same as the system temp (I use E:\Temp on my scratch disk) by editing the environment variables. From what I’ve seen none of the OSes out there at the moment seem to dynamically resize the trash as other things need the space. In an ideal world, we’d have very little free space on drives and stuff would be stored in the trash pretty much forever unless the space was needed by something else, at which time it’d be cleared out oldest stuff first until the required free disk space was met.

SB, you can force the user’s temp directory to be the same as the system temp (I use E:\Temp on my scratch disk) by editing the environment variables.

]]> by: SilentBob http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-45 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:15:36 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-45 AFAIK Windows suffers from exactly the same issue. I think the idea is that people are expected to leave things in the Recycle Bin and live with the knowledge that 10% of their hard disk is storing things they don't plan on keeping. But most people like to clear their tracks or get some hard disk space back and empty it regularly. Vista appears to allocate 10% of each drive by default for storing things in the Recycle Bin. You can adjust the maximum size or remove files immediately when deleted, and you can disable the delete confirmation dialog if you're feeling brave. And UAC doesn't prompt me. What annoys me is having to occasionally manually clear things from the user's Temp folder, as it's hidden away, and can often grow large in size due to badly written third party applications that don't clean up after themselves. AFAIK Windows suffers from exactly the same issue. I think the idea is that people are expected to leave things in the Recycle Bin and live with the knowledge that 10% of their hard disk is storing things they don’t plan on keeping. But most people like to clear their tracks or get some hard disk space back and empty it regularly.

Vista appears to allocate 10% of each drive by default for storing things in the Recycle Bin. You can adjust the maximum size or remove files immediately when deleted, and you can disable the delete confirmation dialog if you’re feeling brave. And UAC doesn’t prompt me.

What annoys me is having to occasionally manually clear things from the user’s Temp folder, as it’s hidden away, and can often grow large in size due to badly written third party applications that don’t clean up after themselves.

]]> by: yamahito http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-44 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:35:14 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-44 I should have known better, and checked the trash. Well, I shouldn't have *had* to, but you know what I mean. I think windows may have this issue as well: do you know? How about vista? I should have known better, and checked the trash.

Well, I shouldn’t have *had* to, but you know what I mean.

I think windows may have this issue as well: do you know? How about vista?

]]> by: SilentBob http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-43 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:10:44 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/16/apples-trash/#comment-43 I always permanently delete stuff, it's so much easier that way. Bad luck on the failed backup! I always permanently delete stuff, it’s so much easier that way. Bad luck on the failed backup!

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