Comments on: Gmail Loader http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/ Tomos Hillman's mind-dump. Sun, 20 May 2012 12:42:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: yamahito http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-54 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:59:29 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-54 Finally got it working. Chris pointed out that our servers will accept mail from any address to local addresses; they'll also allow relaying from local addresses to anywhere else. I was trying to relay from a non-local IP to a non-local IP: that is I'd need a totally open smtp relay, which are Bad Things. Of course, as soon as I relayed them to a local email address, it worked fine. That local email address was itself a relay to the gmail address, and so the path is complete. Now all I have to do is wait for 25,000 emails to be forwarded to my gmail account at a rate of an email every 2 seconds. That's just under 14 hours. Woot. (by the way, gmail is great. I've set all incoming emails to my gmail address (which is most of the ones I'd be interested in reading) to be starred on delivery. That should help seperate them from the 25k archived emails in my inbox nicely). Finally got it working.

Chris pointed out that our servers will accept mail from any address to local addresses; they’ll also allow relaying from local addresses to anywhere else. I was trying to relay from a non-local IP to a non-local IP: that is I’d need a totally open smtp relay, which are Bad Things.

Of course, as soon as I relayed them to a local email address, it worked fine. That local email address was itself a relay to the gmail address, and so the path is complete.

Now all I have to do is wait for 25,000 emails to be forwarded to my gmail account at a rate of an email every 2 seconds. That’s just under 14 hours. Woot.

(by the way, gmail is great. I’ve set all incoming emails to my gmail address (which is most of the ones I’d be interested in reading) to be starred on delivery. That should help seperate them from the 25k archived emails in my inbox nicely).

]]> by: yamahito http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-52 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:23:27 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-52 they don't require TLS, I just think they might need it to relay mail... I must admit I don't know enough about SMTP. I want to import sent emails as sent emails, and received emails as received emails - losing the information as to who sent which email isn't helpful! they don’t require TLS, I just think they might need it to relay mail… I must admit I don’t know enough about SMTP.

I want to import sent emails as sent emails, and received emails as received emails - losing the information as to who sent which email isn’t helpful!

]]> by: SilentBob http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-51 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:02:28 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-51 //also all of the emails would show up as sent emails, which isn’t what I want// I thought you were trying to import all your emails into Gmail? That's why I thought you might like a suggestion that'd bring your sent mail into Gmail too. I guess they think it's better to be secure than wide open (then again, they have enough XSS/redirect problems on their site that beg to differ). Do your servers really require TLS? I don't believe I'm using it to send my emails from Outlook at home, although I'd have to check. //also all of the emails would show up as sent emails, which isn’t what I want//

I thought you were trying to import all your emails into Gmail? That’s why I thought you might like a suggestion that’d bring your sent mail into Gmail too. I guess they think it’s better to be secure than wide open (then again, they have enough XSS/redirect problems on their site that beg to differ).

Do your servers really require TLS? I don’t believe I’m using it to send my emails from Outlook at home, although I’d have to check.

]]> by: yamahito http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-50 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:23:51 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-50 Ooh, nice link, ta. I should have said, authentication is the issue with smtp: the gmail tool will authenticate for you, but won't do TLS/SSL, which our servers need to do the relay jazz. --edit-- damn, looks like the gmail smtp needs TLS - also all of the emails would show up as sent emails, which isn't what I want. Damn. Doubt you'll be seeing the fileserver anytime soon - the OS is nearly a year out of date, so that needs updating. That means I should probably migrate from an md software raid to whatever all-singing all-dancing hard drive management suite whatever linux distro I'll be using recommends. And then I'll have to find a decent client. What it does mean is that I'll be able to play in earnest with a media pc - w00t ;) Ooh, nice link, ta.

I should have said, authentication is the issue with smtp: the gmail tool will authenticate for you, but won’t do TLS/SSL, which our servers need to do the relay jazz.

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damn, looks like the gmail smtp needs TLS - also all of the emails would show up as sent emails, which isn’t what I want. Damn.

Doubt you’ll be seeing the fileserver anytime soon - the OS is nearly a year out of date, so that needs updating. That means I should probably migrate from an md software raid to whatever all-singing all-dancing hard drive management suite whatever linux distro I’ll be using recommends. And then I’ll have to find a decent client.

What it does mean is that I’ll be able to play in earnest with a media pc - w00t ;)

]]> by: SilentBob http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-49 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:46:33 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-49 I realised that I have a similar problem where my fileserver will no longer send me email notifications (which goes to an email address that sends me a text) if/when my RAID arrays fail and start to rebuild on the hot spare, as the SMTP server requires authentication, which HighPoint's software doesn't appear to support. So I may have to add some sort of proxy that will somehow read the first email and send the second email (perhaps, to begin with, a rule in Outlook). Sometimes increased security can be a pain, but it should be worth it. Congrats on getting your fileserver up and running, will we see it online sometime? Seeing as you like GMail, and assuming you haven't screwed up the login, I gather Gmail provides an SMTP server as an alternative (assuming this still works): http://lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-111166.php I realised that I have a similar problem where my fileserver will no longer send me email notifications (which goes to an email address that sends me a text) if/when my RAID arrays fail and start to rebuild on the hot spare, as the SMTP server requires authentication, which HighPoint’s software doesn’t appear to support. So I may have to add some sort of proxy that will somehow read the first email and send the second email (perhaps, to begin with, a rule in Outlook). Sometimes increased security can be a pain, but it should be worth it. Congrats on getting your fileserver up and running, will we see it online sometime? Seeing as you like GMail, and assuming you haven’t screwed up the login, I gather Gmail provides an SMTP server as an alternative (assuming this still works): http://lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-111166.php

]]> by: yamahito http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-46 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:21:40 +0000 http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/03/20/gmail-loader/#comment-46 Grr.. Couldn't get it working. I think my smtp won't accept mail from a relay, which I guess is what the program is essentially trying to be. Given that this is the first time I've tried to use an smtp server at home in about 3 years I may have gotten the log-in wrong, of course... At least I finally got Tsuchi (my fileserver) up and running. Grr.. Couldn’t get it working. I think my smtp won’t accept mail from a relay, which I guess is what the program is essentially trying to be.

Given that this is the first time I’ve tried to use an smtp server at home in about 3 years I may have gotten the log-in wrong, of course…

At least I finally got Tsuchi (my fileserver) up and running.

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