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	<title>Comments on: iGoogle and Google Reader</title>
	<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/</link>
	<description>Tomos Hillman's mind-dump.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed,  7 Jan 2009 13:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Qiana</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-33052</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-33052</guid>
					<description>Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good work.
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		<title>by: SilentBob</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-527</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-527</guid>
					<description>That does seem a bit quirky if that's what it does, I would have thought it'd abstract the individual entries so it doesn't really matter. If you add the second after the first, althought it might be presented incorrectly on the webpage, would the RSS feed still be displayed correctly if the feed reader orders by published/updated? I'm all about the RSS feeds, so I don't care if the page itself is out of order ;) (for example, one day I'll finish writing my site so that it'll update the entries when I update them, so that I can have a correct updated time on the RSS feed, but still present the items in date order - actually, it's ordered by id - on the site).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That does seem a bit quirky if that&#8217;s what it does, I would have thought it&#8217;d abstract the individual entries so it doesn&#8217;t really matter. If you add the second after the first, althought it might be presented incorrectly on the webpage, would the RSS feed still be displayed correctly if the feed reader orders by published/updated? I&#8217;m all about the RSS feeds, so I don&#8217;t care if the page itself is out of order <img src='http://yamahito.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  (for example, one day I&#8217;ll finish writing my site so that it&#8217;ll update the entries when I update them, so that I can have a correct updated time on the RSS feed, but still present the items in date order - actually, it&#8217;s ordered by id - on the site).
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		<title>by: yamahito</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-526</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-526</guid>
					<description>The standards don't (and shouldn't) dictate how they're presented, but they often include date information.  What I'm saying is that if google offer to organise items in some form of date order, they should use that information.  Otherwise the feed with yesterday's posts will appear to be less recent than a feed that has three month old entires if I add the second to google reader after the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The standards don&#8217;t (and shouldn&#8217;t) dictate how they&#8217;re presented, but they often include date information.  What I&#8217;m saying is that if google offer to organise items in some form of date order, they should use that information.  Otherwise the feed with yesterday&#8217;s posts will appear to be less recent than a feed that has three month old entires if I add the second to google reader after the first.
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		<title>by: SilentBob</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-524</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-524</guid>
					<description>I tend to use IE7 for reading RSS feeds, as it's my default browser so links open up in there and I tend to have a copy of IE open at all times. It supports OPML files, which has made it easy to move my feeds about between PCs, although I find I tend to update my main machine's feeds manually as I tend to keep track of things on my laptop.

The aggregation thing sounds cool if you're using a dozen different sites, but it's usually easy enough to write your own thing (my homepage has info about my SETI stats, the combined user stats from my UK Radio Player gadget, the last couple of tracks I've been listening to with Winamp, and the last entry from my blog) and I think there's probably something wrong with people if they can't use one site to do everything (this might also be why I detest all the "social network" sites as they all do exactly the same thing, but expect me to complete the same information a billion times).

As for the ordering, I don't believe any of the RSS/Atom standards dictate how the entries should be presented (or even what order they should be presented in the XML feed) by feed readers. Google's ordering by the last updated isn't a bad assumption, as RSS feeds are meant to be there to identify new content.

Have you tried the RSS feed of the aggregated content? It's much nicer than viewing it on the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to use IE7 for reading RSS feeds, as it&#8217;s my default browser so links open up in there and I tend to have a copy of IE open at all times. It supports OPML files, which has made it easy to move my feeds about between PCs, although I find I tend to update my main machine&#8217;s feeds manually as I tend to keep track of things on my laptop.</p>
<p>The aggregation thing sounds cool if you&#8217;re using a dozen different sites, but it&#8217;s usually easy enough to write your own thing (my homepage has info about my SETI stats, the combined user stats from my UK Radio Player gadget, the last couple of tracks I&#8217;ve been listening to with Winamp, and the last entry from my blog) and I think there&#8217;s probably something wrong with people if they can&#8217;t use one site to do everything (this might also be why I detest all the &#8220;social network&#8221; sites as they all do exactly the same thing, but expect me to complete the same information a billion times).</p>
<p>As for the ordering, I don&#8217;t believe any of the RSS/Atom standards dictate how the entries should be presented (or even what order they should be presented in the XML feed) by feed readers. Google&#8217;s ordering by the last updated isn&#8217;t a bad assumption, as RSS feeds are meant to be there to identify new content.</p>
<p>Have you tried the RSS feed of the aggregated content? It&#8217;s much nicer than viewing it on the page.
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		<title>by: yamahito</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-523</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/06/21/igoogle-and-google-reader/#comment-523</guid>
					<description>This post has yet to show up in the aggregated thread, after two hours and manual refreshing.

Maybe I'd be better off aggregating my own threads?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post has yet to show up in the aggregated thread, after two hours and manual refreshing.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;d be better off aggregating my own threads?
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